[DECtalk] List UP?
Alex H.
linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com
Wed Aug 31 17:57:37 EDT 2011
Hi Ed,
Here's my observations on the test2 file.
Certain words, like "qualities," have a slightly longer T sound. This
was evident in the weather file too, for the most extreme example, the
word "Saturday."
The female voices sound good. One thing I noticed is while any of the
female voices said any words like "side," "eying," or anything else
with a long i sound, the i sounds a bit strange. The best way I can
explain this is to imagine combining the short O sound with a long I
sound, if that makes any sense. For example, "side" is being
pronounced "saaeyed"
As for the voices themselves, they're all quite excellent already. I
think Rita might be a tad to low, and Denis is maybe a bit too
breathy, but as Jake said, these can all be tweaked later.
Thanks for the demo and keep up the amazing work!
Alex
On 8/31/11, ebruckert Bruckert <edbruckert at gmail.com> wrote:
> no hints just feedback please.
>
> On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 5:36 PM, Jayson Smith <ratguy at insightbb.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> The Val voice is still present in 4.3, so it's probably still there to
>> this
>> day.
>> Jayson
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "ebruckert Bruckert" <edbruckert at gmail.com>
>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 4:00 PM
>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] List UP?
>>
>>
>> > Such it does never created for DECtalk, however I could certainly aid
>> > someone in advising them on how to make it easier. For this purpose a
>> > special voice was created in DECtalk called variable valve(Dennis Klatt
>> > liked alliteration). Since I am a totally incompetent Windows
>> > programmer
>> > I
>> > can't do it, but I will have to look in the code to see if variable
>> > valve
>> > still exists but it could be done anyway.
>> > As I said the source code for the two apps I mentioned are available to
>> > anyone I haven't done anything with them because of the above mentioned
>> > reason. The real issue would be to develop an automatic gain tuner,
>> > which which again could be done with some help, just to make the whole
>> > process easier but it certainly can and has been done purely manually.
>> >
>> > On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Jitendra Kumar
>> > <jeet.invincible at gmail.com>wrote:
>> >
>> >> someone already posted that a new speak window can be created,Hello
>> >> friends, I also have a suggestion too, if you remember, many of you
>> >> perhaps: that flextalk had an app called perhaps voice tool, that we
>> >> used to create new voices, however I never able to make it sing, but
>> >> such an app should also ship with DECTalk, so that we can create new
>> >> voices with more or less inflection and pitch settings, and perhaps
>> >> this option can be made available in the newer speak window itself,
>> >> and when we create new voices, DECTalk should register the voice so
>> >> each sapi5 app can make use of it. Thank you.
>> >>
>> >> On 8/30/11, Alex H. <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > Hi,
>> >> >
>> >> > No, but they just have a tendency to mess with the punctuation and
>> >> > sort of commandeer it to their will, not taking into account that
>> >> > somebody might have a clever synth like DECtalk. Anyways, I hear ya
>> >> > on
>> >> > the abreviation issue. My iPod says 25 millibars instead of 25 MB for
>> >> > filesizes. Or how about Windows 98 Southeast? Hahah!
>> >> >
>> >> > Alex
>> >> >
>> >> > On 8/29/11, Brent Harding <bharding at doorpi.net> wrote:
>> >> >> I know, the automatic expansion of abbreviations drives a person up
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> wall
>> >> >> trying to do critical things like medical transcription. I was
>> >> >> listening
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> Jonathan Mosen do a demo of some self-voicing daisy editing app that
>> >> >> FS
>> >> >> bundles with the Plextalk, and kid me not, files sizes are measured
>> in
>> >> >> kerobytes. Is that what Microsoft does when you put kb next to a
>> >> >> number?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >> From: "Alex H." <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com>
>> >> >> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>> >> >> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 7:45 PM
>> >> >> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] List UP?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> Hi,
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Just to clarify my earlier post, life would be great if Microsoft
>> >> >>> didn't feel the need to muck about with how SAPI5 handles
>> punctuation
>> >> >>> and I'd love a singing sapi. The reality and how MS has done this
>> >> >>> really makes it a royal pain, at least as far as I can tell with
>> >> >>> little to no programming knowledge and just reading the
>> documentation
>> >> >>> on how this stuff works. The great thing if we were to have a
>> >> >>> modern
>> >> >>> speak window for singing and skits and the SAPI for scren reading
>> and
>> >> >>> other text to speech programs is that it'll still be easy to export
>> >> >>> songs and skits as wave files with minimal effort and ensure that
>> >> >>> this
>> >> >>> program will run in Windows operating systems in the future.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Thanks Ed for all the tweaking and coding that has to go into a
>> >> >>> project like this. It's much appreciated. Things are looking up.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Aelx
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On 8/29/11, Jake McMahan <mcmahan.jake at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>> To me, I think the whole dad gum thing is extremely impressive and
>> >> it's
>> >> >>>> coming along. I am looking forward to getting my hands on this
>> >> >>>> thing
>> >> >>>> when
>> >> >>>> it is available, and using it in my DSpeech scripts and much more.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> From: ebruckert Bruckert
>> >> >>>> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 6:09 PM
>> >> >>>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>> >> >>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] List UP?
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Okay sounds like you've done a thorough job. But I have two
>> programs
>> >> say
>> >> >>>> the
>> >> >>>> command line and batch mode program and speak which are both
>> >> >>>> freely
>> >> >>>> distributable in including source code and could certainly be
>> >> >>>> included
>> >> >>>> in
>> >> >>>> any distribution.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Alex H. <
>> linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com>
>> >> >>>> wrote:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Hi Ed,
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> I've done some digging about how to make the SAPI5 version of DT
>> >> sing.
>> >> >>>> It won't be easy to do this I'm afraid. Too many variables
>> >> >>>> involved,
>> >> >>>> and no program except ttsapp.exe will pipe the exact string you
>> >> >>>> send
>> >> >>>> to it to the SAPI5 engine. That's only part of the issue though.
>> >> >>>> Firstly, SAPI5, as I thought, uses some low level punctuation
>> >> >>>> filtering that comes even lower in the stack than things like
>> text
>> >> to
>> >> >>>> MP3 programs, like Verbose or TextAloud, etc. Basically, the
>> >> >>>> text
>> >> >>>> to
>> >> >>>> speech program (like textAloud) gets the text and adds its own
>> >> >>>> punctuation rules to the text and sends this to SAPI, and SAPI
>> >> >>>> does
>> >> >>>> its own filtering/changing of the text string, so the original
>> >> >>>> text
>> >> >>>> gets lost early on in the chain. There's not any real easy way
>> >> around
>> >> >>>> this I'm afraid, after a good few hours reading MSDN articles
>> >> >>>> and
>> >> what
>> >> >>>> not. Even when talking about changing text to be pronounced
>> better
>> >> (we
>> >> >>>> could use this to make DT sing), SAPI unfortunately makes its
>> >> >>>> own
>> >> >>>> rules of phonemic definitions when you specify the proper tags
>> >> >>>> [3].
>> >> >>>> This basically means that it tries a one-size-fits-all approach
>> >> >>>> and
>> >> >>>> some synths that are SAPI compliant still won't speak the text
>> >> >>>> as
>> >> the
>> >> >>>> SAPI phonemic string intends. In short, this would be a
>> >> >>>> nightmare
>> >> >>>> to
>> >> >>>> implement using SAPI5. At least the way I see it.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> I'm thinking for the ease of use factor for singers, maybe the
>> >> >>>> best
>> >> >>>> idea is a SAPI dectalk installable synth that works wiht screen
>> >> >>>> readers, and then a speak window bundled wiht it for singing.
>> That
>> >> >>>> way, nobody is messing with sapi protocols.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Sources:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> [1]
>> >> >>>>
>> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms719574%28v=vs.85%29.aspx
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> [2]
>> >> >>>>
>> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms717252%28v=vs.85%29.aspx
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> [3]
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >>
>> http://elearningtech.blogspot.com/2010/10/using-punctuation-and-mark-up-language.html
>> >> >>>> [4]
>> >> >>>>
>> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms723638%28v=vs.85%29.aspx
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Sorry for the hugely complex post, but I felt it was needed to
>> >> explain
>> >> >>>> further. As always, great work and i look forward to more
>> testing.
>> >> >>>> Alex
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> On 8/29/11, jake mcmahan <mcmahan.jake at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>> > On 8/29/2011 3:07 PM, ebruckert Bruckert wrote:
>> >> >>>> >> These are all generated by just plopping the text into speak,
>> >> since
>> >> >>>> >> the scaling and interaction of these things has always varied
>> >> >>>> slightly
>> >> >>>> >> the the goal now is to try to adjust things the detailed
>> >> >>>> stuff
>> >> like
>> >> >>>> >> little overloads for the last step.
>> >> >>>> >> I'm not sure if I reset Paul or left them at the custom voice
>> >> when
>> >> >>>> I
>> >> >>>> >> did the weather, so I'll resend the weather being sure it's
>> >> regular
>> >> >>>> >> Paul, but in fact if everybody likes the style we can modify
>> >> those
>> >> >>>> >> base parameters, as I already know that the pitch scaling is
>> >> >>>> slightly
>> >> >>>> >> different so will probably have to change the pitch things
>> >> >>>> but
>> >> >>>> that's
>> >> >>>> >> the purpose of tweaking. On some of the voices that I fooled
>> >> around
>> >> >>>> >> was so much I really don't have a feel for what's better or
>> >> worse.
>> >> >>>> >>
>> >> >>>> >> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Alex H. <
>> >> linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> >> <mailto:linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >> >>>> >>
>> >> >>>> >> Hi,
>> >> >>>> >>
>> >> >>>> >> First, excellent job! The custom Paul voice in the
>> >> >>>> weather
>> >> file
>> >> >>>> is
>> >> >>>> >> great. It has a lot of inflection and sounds like 4.4,
>> >> >>>> which
>> >> is
>> >> >>>> pretty
>> >> >>>> >> impressive. The test.wav is strange though. It's very
>> buzzy
>> >> and
>> >> >>>> hard
>> >> >>>> >> to understand. Just to clarify, for now, are we just
>> >> >>>> testing
>> >> >>>> the
>> >> >>>> Paul
>> >> >>>> >> voice?
>> >> >>>> >>
>> >> >>>> >> The weather sample seems to be very articulate and
>> precise.
>> >> It
>> >> >>>> doesn't
>> >> >>>> >> have any of that slurring of old versions on certain
>> words.
>> >> >>>> This
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> is
>> >> >>>> >> great.
>> >> >>>> >>
>> >> >>>> >> Just to hear the sample at a higher rate of speed, can
>> >> >>>> you
>> >> >>>> do
>> >> >>>> the
>> >> >>>> same
>> >> >>>> >> text at about 350 wpm to see how it stands up?
>> >> >>>> >>
>> >> >>>> >> I didn't hear any of the soft tones at the end of
>> >> >>>> sentences,
>> >> >>>> and
>> >> >>>> even
>> >> >>>> >> ran the file and amplified silences, and it's about 48 dB
>> >> below
>> >> >>>> >> normal, so it's pretty quiet as it is without the code to
>> >> >>>> squash
>> >> >>>> the
>> >> >>>> >> humming.
>> >> >>>> >>
>> >> >>>> >> Thanks,
>> >> >>>> >>
>> >> >>>> >> Alex
>> >> >>>> >>
>> >> >>>> >> On 8/29/11, ebruckert Bruckert <edbruckert at gmail.com
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> >> <mailto:edbruckert at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >> >>>> >> > First some baseline testing stuff. Do not over test it
>> in
>> >> >>>> other
>> >> >>>> >> words in the
>> >> >>>> >> > beginning this is a rough cut so if we get into too
>> >> >>>> many
>> >> >>>> details
>> >> >>>> >> or changes
>> >> >>>> >> > it will just all become mud. We should only make a few
>> >> >>>> changes
>> >> >>>> >> at a time,
>> >> >>>> >> > the other problem may become differences of opinion
>> >> >>>> especially
>> >> >>>> >> with some of
>> >> >>>> >> > the voices which were never very stable because we
>> >> >>>> never
>> >> >>>> really
>> >> >>>> >> liked
>> >> >>>> >> > exactly what we had. This is an old version of DECtalk
>> so
>> >> >>>> >> occasionally you
>> >> >>>> >> > will hear little homes at the end of things during what
>> >> >>>> should
>> >> >>>> >> be silence.
>> >> >>>> >> > This is a mathematical problem called a limit cycle
>> >> >>>> when
>> >> >>>> we're
>> >> >>>> >> finished I'll
>> >> >>>> >> > add the new code I developed to squelch it. It took us
>> >> years
>> >> >>>> to
>> >> >>>> >> figure out a
>> >> >>>> >> > way to get rid of it perceptually we never could get
>> >> >>>> rid
>> >> >>>> of
>> >> >>>> it
>> >> >>>> >> > mathematically. Lastly I had to change the gain of
>> >> >>>> voicing
>> >> on
>> >> >>>> >> the modified
>> >> >>>> >> > voice that was sent without going into a long
>> explanation
>> >> >>>> which
>> >> >>>> >> I can later
>> >> >>>> >> > if people want the gains of the cascade vocal track
>> >> >>>> have
>> >> >>>> never
>> >> >>>> >> ever been
>> >> >>>> >> > constant it's a mathematical issue where you're
>> >> >>>> constantly
>> >> >>>> >> trying to adjust
>> >> >>>> >> > them between quantization and overload and we've never
>> >> >>>> been
>> >> >>>> able
>> >> >>>> to
>> >> >>>> >> > guarantee them.
>> >> >>>> >> > Lastly people can think about singing. The problem is
>> >> >>>> that
>> >> >>>> most
>> >> >>>> SAPI
>> >> >>>> >> > applications strip stuff out so I'm looking for
>> >> >>>> suggestions
>> >> >>>> of
>> >> >>>> >> how we could
>> >> >>>> >> > fool it and tell DECtalk that it was supposed to go
>> >> >>>> into
>> >> >>>> >> phonemic mode so it
>> >> >>>> >> > can sing. I don't know what can and cannot get through
>> >> >>>> the
>> >> >>>> various
>> >> >>>> >> > applications and while
>> >> >>>> >> >
>> >> >>>> >> > Again don't put too much effort in two critical
>> listening
>> >> at
>> >> >>>> >> this stage as
>> >> >>>> >> > were not fine-tuning it just training 3n where targets
>> >> >>>> are
>> >> >>>> >> >
>> >> >>>> >> > On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 1:06 PM, jake mcmahan
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> >> <mcmahan.jake at gmail.com <mailto:mcmahan.jake at gmail.com
>> >> >>wrote:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> >> >
>> >> >>>> >> >> On 8/29/2011 11:52 AM, ebruckert Bruckert wrote:
>> >> >>>> >> >>
>> >> >>>> >> >> Hello everyone the good news is I had a generator the
>> >> >>>> bad
>> >> >>>> news
>> >> >>>> >> is I had to
>> >> >>>> >> >> use it. I'm having trouble with the 2008 free edition
>> of
>> >> >>>> visual
>> >> >>>> >> C I can't
>> >> >>>> >> >> run the debugger. But before I uninstall and reinstall
>> >> >>>> it
>> >> I
>> >> >>>> >> want to get
>> >> >>>> >> >> this
>> >> >>>> >> >> baseline out but it's a little bit painful because I
>> >> >>>> can't
>> >> >>>> run
>> >> >>>> the
>> >> >>>> >> >> debugger
>> >> >>>> >> >> so I'm doing it by an archaic method. So it'll be out
>> >> >>>> sometime
>> >> >>>> >> today and
>> >> >>>> >> >> then I'll reload visual C.
>> >> >>>> >> >>
>> >> >>>> >> >> On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 4:11 PM, jake mcmahan
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> >> >> <mcmahan.jake at gmail.com
>> >> >>>> <mailto:mcmahan.jake at gmail.com>>wrote:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> >> >>
>> >> >>>> >> >> On 8/28/2011 11:40 AM, ebruckert Bruckert wrote:
>> >> >>>> >> >>
>> >> >>>> >> >> Ed K okay I'm ready. I have a base tuning of all the
>> >> voices.
>> >> >>>> So
>> >> >>>> >> send me
>> >> >>>> >> >> the
>> >> >>>> >> >> various files to test with and we will try and get
>> >> >>>> some
>> >> >>>> >> agreement on the
>> >> >>>> >> >> voices.
>> >> >>>> >> >>
>> >> >>>> >> >>
>> >> >>>> >> >> On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 10:32 AM, ebruckert Bruckert
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> >> <edbruckert at gmail.com <mailto:edbruckert at gmail.com>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>>> >> >>
>> >> >>>> >> >> I was visiting my grandson, back to woek today.....
>> >> >>>> >> >>
>> >> >>>> >> >>
>> >> >>>> >> >> On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 11:45 PM, Alex H.
>> >> >>>> >> >> <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> >> <mailto:linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com>>wrote:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> >> >>
>> >> >>>> >> >> Hi,
>> >> >>>> >> >>
>> >> >>>> >> >> Your message came through. DECTalk is alive and
>> singing.
>> >> :D
>> >> >>>> >> >>
>> >> >>>> >> >> Alex
>> >> >>>> >> >> On 8/20/2011 11:22 PM, Doris and Chris wrote:
>> >> >>>> >> >> > I have not seen any messages from this list in over
>> >> >>>> a
>> >> >>>> week.
>> >> >>>> >> So I was
>> >> >>>> >> >> > wondering if the list was down or if there is a
>> >> >>>> problem
>> >> at
>> >> >>>> my
>> >> >>>> >> end or
>> >> >>>> >> >> > with my subscription.
>> >> >>>> >> >> >
>> >> >>>> >> >> > Cheers,
>> >> >>>> >> >> >
>> >> >>>> >> >> > Doris
>> >> >>>> >> >> >
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