[DECtalk] DECTalk 5.0?
Alex H.
linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com
Tue Aug 24 15:34:44 EDT 2010
I realize that people's opinions are different, I personally think
espeak beats a lot of synths, but especially open-source ones.
Eloquence is a decent synth, DECTalk is great, but espeak is an
open-source synth that, given time, will only improve. I remember when
espeak was first introduced using NVDA a few years back, and I didn't
like it. Now, it's improved insanely from that version. I don't really
like the Klatt voices for espeak, but there's some jembs usin gthe
english-us language.
Anyway, this about DECTalk , not espeak...Sorry!
I had this thought concerning DECTalk this morning, it would be really
cool to have Voiceover on the Mac and iPhoens use DECTalk speech as
well as Vocalizer. I don't mind Vocalizer but DECTalk would be sweeeet
on the iPhone!! Evern ooler, somebody making a iSing app, and being
able to play and export waves of DECTalk songs etc.
Alex
On 8/24/10, peter Mahach <pitermach at gmail.com> wrote:
> make it people disliking espeak.
> also the newer it goes the more scrooups it does. for instance, in polish,
> when you say the word clipboard, it has this h type sound, like at the
> beginning of the word hat, so instead of saying hlipboard, basically, it
> says shlipboard. and it's getting worse each version. not only in polish I
> hear.
> Also most of the voices, unlike in dectalk or eloquence, where, sure, it's 1
> synth, but most voices are very very distinct and unique. ine espeak tehy
> really sound almost the same to me.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Blake Roberts" <beroberts at hughes.net>
> To: "'DECtalk Discussions'" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 8:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] DECTalk 5.0?
>
>
>> Jayson,
>> The Espeak synth has a British accent, not Australian. Although I don't
>> like
>> Espeak myself, I respect that Alex and some screen reader users like it.
>> To
>> borrow an old saying "To each his own synth). I think it is wonderful that
>> Espeak supports so many languages and voices can be altered to create new
>> ones. I don't know how to make Espeak voices. I am just fascinated by the
>> variety of Espeak voices created for NVDA. Sorry for going off-topic by
>> responding about Espeak.
>> Blake
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com
>> [mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Jayson Smith
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 2:11 PM
>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] DECTalk 5.0?
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I don't want to turn this into a speech synch flame war, especially since
>> I
>> own this list! But you like Espeak? I can't stand that thing! It has this
>> really weird almost British or Australian accent that's quite pronounced.
>> Jayson
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Alex H." <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com>
>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 1:42 PM
>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] DECTalk 5.0?
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I use DECTalk Access32 at about 350 WPM and enjoy it' speech. I also
>>> use the older DECTalk demos at about 300 WPM. I'll say this: If NVDA
>>> had a supported DECTalk driver, I'd be using it more than espeak. And
>>> that's saying something, because espeak is another of my favorite
>>> synths to use. The thing that really makes dectalk great is I can
>>> listen to books for hours with it or work on my PC without getting
>>> tired of the speech. If I did get sikckof a particular voice, I'd just
>>> change it and keep going.
>>>
>>> Alex
>>>
>>> On 8/24/10, Raymond Grote <musicalman1 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> I'm not sure if I can answer your question, but I personally don't like
>>>> Dectalk at high speeds. I use Eloquence most of the time, at speeds of
>>>> between 65 and 85 percent, 65 for reading text and 85 for just
>>>> navigating
>>>> around and listening to short things like short IM messages on skype.
>>>> As for how fast this is, I don't really know. But I do know that dectalk
>>>> just doesn't sound good at those speeds, it starts to sounds all garbled
>>>> and
>>>> all the words and syllables start to run together, making it difficult
>>>> for
>>>> me to understand. Eloquence doesn't have this problem.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Corine Bickley
>>>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 7:18 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] DECTalk 5.0?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Alex,
>>>> I am particularly interested in knowing who uses DECtalk for screen
>>>> readers because I'm part of an Acoustical Society's standards committee
>>>> on
>>>> intelligibility of text-to-speech systems. We have a particular interest
>>>> in
>>>> knowing what users of high-speed synthesized speech think, and can
>>>> understand, as most of us on the committee only have experience
>>>> listening
>>
>>>> to
>>>> synthesized speech at conversational speeds. What's your preferred
>>>> speed?
>>>> Might you be willing to advise our committee?
>>>> thanks for considering - corine
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Alex H. <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Corine,
>>>>
>>>> I use DECTalk mostly on the Windows platform, and when I convert to
>>>> Linux I'll probably use it as well. I'm a screen reader user, and
>>>> use
>>>> DECTalk Access32 with JAWS and Window-Eyes. For NVDA (my primary
>>>> screenreader), there's no supported DECTalk, which is why a SAPI
>>>> version would be really great.
>>>>
>>>> My cell phone is a Windows Mobile phone, and I currently use Mobile
>>>> Speak for Windows Mobile and Fonix Dectalk 4.6.3 that's bundled with
>>>> Mobile Speak. So in short, I use DECTalk quite a bit.
>>>>
>>>> I also use DECTalk demos to write songs and gingles, plays, etc.
>>>> It's
>>>> really quite amusing having a synthesizer that can do so much.
>>>>
>>>> When I can swing it, I'll look into buying a DECTalk USb and then
>>>> I'll
>>>> have my favorite speech in a hardware synthesizer. I know, I'm a bit
>>>> crazy about DECTalk! :)
>>>>
>>>> Alex
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 8/23/10, Corine Bickley <corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu> wrote:
>>>> > Hi Alex -
>>>> > I worked with Snoopi at Fonix (and before that at Force), and I'm
>>>> interested
>>>> > to know how you use DECtalk - for what purposes and on what
>>>> platforms?
>>>> > corine bickley
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Alex H.
>>>> <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Hi,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Best of luck to you with the CD's and DECTalk. I hope DECTalk
>>>> doesn't
>>>> >> go by the wayside, it's a great synth and I use it almost
>>>> everyday,
>>>> on
>>>> >> my phone and my laptops. I'm planning on getting the DECTalk USB
>>>> but
>>>> >> have yet to find a used one.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Alex
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On 8/23/10, Dectalk at aol.com <Dectalk at aol.com> wrote:
>>>> >> > I don't work with Fonix any more so I can't really say. My
>>>> personal
>>>> >> > opinion is just ask. I know a sapi5 is possible, I just don't
>>>> know if
>>>> >> they
>>>> >> > ever
>>>> >> > did one.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > BUT, let me tell you what my plans are. I'm finally on
>>>> facebook
>>>> where
>>>> >> > more people are getting to know me and my music. At the end
>>>> of
>>>> >> September
>>>> >> > I'm
>>>> >> > releasing my very first holiday CD. I'm hoping it does well.
>>>> I
>>>> have 2
>>>> >> > Churches that are letting me sell it, a CEO might buy some for
>>>> his
>>>> >> company,
>>>> >> > and I'm hoping for a big sale. You can't count on anything,
>>>> but
>>>> I'm
>>>> >> > hoping.
>>>> >> > Blake Roberts and I are giving this our best shot.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > One of the things I want to get is the Dectalk Kit, and I
>>>> believe
>>>> it
>>>> >> sells
>>>> >> > for $1000.00. That kit will let me create a Dectalk sapi 5
>>>> version. I
>>>> >> > think I can get the 4.0 kit version but I'm not sure. I want
>>>> the
>>>> >> > oldest
>>>> >> > version I can get because the new versions suck!
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Dectalk is going away because of lake of interest. But
>>>> because
>>
>>>> of
>>>> my
>>>> >> > music, there will always be disabled people who want to get
>>>> into
>>>> >> singing.
>>>> >> > Plus
>>>> >> > if device companies ever want Dectalk, I'll be able to pay
>>>> the
>>>> >> royalties
>>>> >> > through this Dectalk kit and sell the sapi 5 that I create
>>>> with
>>>> the
>>>> >> > kit.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > If my September release doesn't generate enough orders, I'm
>>>> hoping
>>>> it
>>>> >> will
>>>> >> > generate a new generation of interest because I'm planning on
>>>> another
>>>> >> > CD
>>>> >> > release next March.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > My dilemma is, I need a new van because my van is on it's last
>>>> legs.
>>>> >> > So
>>>> >> > sadly the van needs to have priority. But I'm hoping to book
>>>> a
>>>> >> > concert,
>>>> >> > and
>>>> >> > if I can do that, I should be fine. I have 750 friends on
>>>> facebook and
>>>> >> > growing, so I'm hoping for some interest.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > So Dectalk is not gone yet.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > In a message dated 8/23/2010 1:27:10 A.M. Eastern Daylight
>>>> Time,
>>>> >> > linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com writes:
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Hi Snoopi,
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Thanks for the info on Dectalk 5.0. I guess I really don't need
>>>> it, I
>>>> >> > got four other demos plus FonixTalk. Do you think I'd have any
>>>> luck
>>>> >> > contacting Fonix and requesting the demos?
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > @johnnybrl, I believe that FonixTalk works with the SAPI5
>>>> engine
>>>> but
>>>> >> > it needs to be purchased. It is mentioned in the SDK and
>>>> FonixTalk
>>>> >> > pages on their site though. I wish DecTalk had a SAPI version,
>>>> and
>>>> >> > direct access to the speech parameters.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Alex
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > On 8/20/10, Ryan Chou <rc4896153 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >> >> wait what is phonix talk and could someone please send me a
>>>> demo?
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> On 8/20/10, Dectalk at aol.com <Dectalk at aol.com> wrote:
>>>> >> >>> As far as I know, Dectalk 5.0 was only a beta version. I
>>>> have
>>>> it
>>>> >> > because
>>>> >> >>> I worked for Fonix, but I can't give it out. My version
>>>> SUCKS!
>>>> >> It's
>>>> >> >>> just
>>>> >> >>> slightly hard to understand. If they fixed it, it needed
>>>> it!
>>>> But I
>>>> >> >>> would
>>>> >> >>> never ever buy it or use it because they changed a phonetic
>>>> code and
>>>> >> > did
>>>> >> >>> a
>>>> >> >>> few other changes.
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>> In a message dated 8/20/2010 4:07:50 A.M. Eastern Daylight
>>>> Time,
>>>> >> >>> johnnybrl at gmail.com writes:
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>> Hi Alex, Yes I think I've seen that fonix has made a
>>>> Dectalk
>>>> 5.0 a
>>>> >> few
>>>> >> >>> years
>>>> >> >>> ago, if my memory is correct. However, I couldn't find
>>>> where
>>>> you can
>>>> >> >>> download a demo version of it anywhere.
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>> But Yeah hopefully somebody managed to get a demo copy
>>>> somewhere.
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>> BTW, I sort of like the fonix talk6 voices, almost like the
>>>> fonix
>>>> >> > dectalk
>>>> >> >>> 4.6.4. And you can also create wave files in the program
>>>> too.
>>>> >> >>> And I was also wondering, is there a version of fonix talk
>>>> that
>>>> you
>>>> >> > could
>>>> >> >>> use in windows like a Sapi5 engine? Was maybe thinking
>>>> about
>>>> getting
>>>> >> > it
>>>> >> >>> to
>>>> >> >>> use it with NVDA or Jaws.
>>>> >> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> >> >>> From: "Alex H." <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com>
>>>> >> >>> To: <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>> >> >>> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 9:29 PM
>>>> >> >>> Subject: [DECtalk] DECTalk 5.0?
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>>> Hey all,
>>>> >> >>>>
>>>> >> >>>> Been doing some research, aparently Fonix made a Dectalk
>>>> 5.0
>>>> before
>>>> >> >>>> they started their FonixTalk synthesizer.
>>>> >> >>>> Just wondering if anybody's got the demo of DECTalk 5.0?
>>>> Can't
>>>> find
>>>> >> it
>>>> >> >>>> anywhere :(
>>>> >> >>>>
>>>> >> >>>> Thx.
>>>> >> >>>> Alex
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