[DECtalk] Fw: Status of the archive

Sun Sep 27 15:06:55 EDT 2009

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeffrey Shockley" <jawswizard at ec.rr.com>
To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Status of the archive


>I also think that would be a good idea.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Raymond C. Grote" <musicalman1 at comcast.net>
> To: "'DECtalk Discussions'" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
> Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 12:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Status of the archive
>
>
>> Yeah I remember that too. A couple years ago I saw a message on the 
>> mailing
>> list saying that I could download the archive, but it would only be
>> available for 24 hours or something, that when I clicked on the link in 
>> the
>> message it would take me to some website where I could get the whole 
>> archive
>> in a zip file, but I can't remember anything about it, like how it was 
>> done,
>> or what was used. I think you should do that when you finally decide to 
>> take
>> the archive down.
>> Anyone remember that? I think that would be a great idea.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com
>> [mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of shaun everiss
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 11:16 PM
>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Status of the archive
>>
>> It would be good if stuff was uploaded still also a way to get the latest
>> stuff, maybe a client to get what we wanted it was mentioned rsinc was
>> supposed to be put in place and I was wandering about what we would need 
>> to
>> get the entire thing, I have the entire thing as it was like either last
>> year or beginning of this year I remember getting a big zip file, but I 
>> have
>> not bothered with that for like ages.
>> At 11:46 a.m. 24/09/2009, you wrote:
>>>Tony,
>>>I still make Dectalk files. I had not asked about uploading my new stuff
>>>because I thought you didn't want people to upload stuff. That was the
>>>impression I got reading the email written when you took over the Dectalk
>>>Archive. Maybe I misunderstood. I stil make Dectalk stuff and am 
>>>interested
>>>in uploading some of it.
>>>Blake
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com
>>>[mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Tony Baechler
>>>Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 1:55 AM
>>>To: dectalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>>Subject: [DECtalk] Status of the archive
>>>
>>>Hello all,
>>>
>>>Please read this carefully.  Nothing has been decided yet.  I am seeking
>>>input from the list before I do anything.  Your thoughts are appreciated.
>>>
>>>To give a little history, the archive was first managed by Andre Louis.
>>>He abandoned it and it was taken over by Jayson Smith who still manages
>> this
>>>list.  Finally, I took it over from him because of bandwidth issues. 
>>>I've
>>>noticed a decline in new files since Jayson took it over with only one or
>>>two people regularly uploading.  Since I've taken it over, no mention has
>>>ever been made of anyone wanting to upload anything.  Therefore, I'm
>>>thinking that perhaps the archive has reached the end of its interest and
>>>usefulness.  The main reason why I never bothered to set up ftp uploading
>> is
>>>because no one asked.  Likewise, I didn't set up rsync for the same 
>>>reason.
>>>
>>>Here are some things that I'm considering.  When I originally took it 
>>>over,
>>>I had great plans for it.  I wanted to go through every file and do some
>>>reorganizing, such as by creator or author.  I wanted to move some of the
>>>text files and software around.  As you can see, that didn't happen.  The
>>>fact is that I really don't have time to deal with it anymore.  I have
>>>severe health problems and am undergoing evaluation for a kidney
>> transplant.
>>>My kidney function is 25%.  I have way too much stress right now to give 
>>>it
>>>the time it deserves, especially if people start uploading again.  That's
>>>why I've been quiet on the list and haven't asked people to upload. 
>>>Also,
>>>something that I wasn't planning on was a lot of hardware problems.  The
>>>machine it's on seems better now but was very unstable for months. 
>>>That's
>>>why the archive would go down for days at a time.  That should be
>>>permanently resolved now.
>>>
>>>I would like to make something very clear.  I am not immediately closing
>> the
>>>archive.  Bandwidth isn't a problem for now.  I'm undecided what to do
>> which
>>>is why I'm asking for input.  If I don't hear anything, I'll probably
>> retire
>>>the archive in a couple weeks and eventually remove it.
>>>If someone else wants to take it over and can give it the time it 
>>>deserves,
>>>feel free to volunteer.  It still gets a lot of hits and will suck your
>>>bandwidth without a limiter.  I guess I'm leaning towards closing it by 
>>>the
>>>end of the year, but for now it isn't going anywhere and nothing will
>> change
>>>immediately.
>>>
>>>Finally, there's something else to consider.  That is that a lot of the
>>>archive is either illegal or adult material.  I'm taking a big chance by
>>>making it available for download.  So far it has been fine but that could
>>>change without warning if my provider finds out.  It's low profile enough
>>>that I'm not too worried, but keep that in mind if you want to take it
>> over.
>>>I'm putting myself and others living here at risk because we could lose 
>>>our
>>>Internet if I get caught.
>>>
>>>In conclusion, I haven't done anything with it since I took it over from
>>>Jayson and I have no immediate plans to change anything.  I'm looking for
>>>input on what to do, but I'm thinking of closing the archive due to lack 
>>>of
>>>interest.  I can't really keep maintaining it and no one has asked to
>> upload
>>>anything.  Unless I hear otherwise, I'll probably close it by the end of
>> the
>>>year.
>>>
>>>Tony Baechler, current DECTalk archive maintainer tony at baechler.net
>>>
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