[DECtalk] DECtalk Archive currently unavailable

Tue Mar 17 18:52:58 EDT 2009

Hi,


     No problem. I think, by shutting down access to the archive, I've got 
the situation under control. Snoopi, it wasn't all you. There have been a 
person or group of people who, it seems, download the same files over and 
over and over again, day after day after day. While your repeated uploading 
was part of the problem, it wasn't all of it.
     Bandwidth can have two meanings. The one most of us are familiar with 
has to do with how much data can be sent or received at a time through any 
given connection. The higher the allowed or possible bandwidth, the more 
data that can fit in the pipe, thus the faster any given file will transfer. 
Another use of the word means the amount of bytes received or transmitted. 
This is what hosting providers mean when they charge for bandwidth. They 
count the bytes the server receives and the bytes it transmits. Then, when 
they bill you, if you're on a fixed bandwidth plan, they check to see if 
you've exceeded the number of bytes specified in your plan. If your 
bandwidth is not fixed, but it's metered, they charge for the bandwidth you 
use. For example, when I uploaded the archive to my new server in early 
November, it took about 1.6 gigabytes of bandwidth to do so. Since then, the 
archive has unfortunately used up a disproportionate amount of bandwidth 
from people downloading like crazy. So Snoopi, while you did contribute a 
bit to the problem, as would anybody who uploaded to the archive, that's not 
the whole story. Hope this clarifies things.
Jayson

----- Original Message ----- 
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Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: [DECtalk] DECtalk Archive currently unavailable


> Gees, I feel terrible!  This was me and I want to  explain what happened. 
> I
> installed a new audio cleaning program that had a  surprise stereo editing
> feature.  So I now can get studio quality  sound.  So I took a week and 
> changed
> every song I ever did.  I then  uploaded around 244 files to Bluwgrasspals
> before realizing that something went  very wrong, plus my FTP program kept
> shutting down.  So I had to do another  fix and then re-upload the same 
> 244 files so
> it would overwrite the bad  files.  So when I was done, I probably 
> uploaded
> about 500 files or so to  get everything updated.
>
> I had no idea Jason was charged for bandwidth  usage.  Most servers now 
> have
> unlimited bandwidth, so I didn't even think  about it.  I kind of wanted 
> to
> surprise everyone with this nice quality  sound I now have.
>
> I'll find a way to pay the bill if need be.  I am  very sorry this has
> happened.  I have no understanding of what bandwidth  even is.  I just 
> feel
> terrible.  This is my doing and I want to help  fix this if I can.
>
>
> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>
>
> In a message dated 3/17/2009 3:27:50 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> beroberts at hughes.net writes:
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:  dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com
> [mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com]  On Behalf Of Jayson Smith
> Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 5:12 AM
> To:  DECtalk Discussions
> Subject: [DECtalk] DECtalk Archive currently  unavailable
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm sorry it has come to  this... As some of you know, I was forced to
> switch from running my own  server to using a hosting provider. This
> provider, openhosting.com, meters  bandwidth. So far this month, I have 
> had
> unusually high bandwidth  utilization, and estimates are that my charges 
> will
> exceed my commit rate  by at least a few dollars. Looking at website
> statistics, it's clear to see  that the DECtalk archive is accounting for 
> an
> extremely high percentage of  web traffic and/or bandwidth utilization. I
> always had my mind made up that  I would host the DECtalk archive as long 
> as
> it didn't actually cost  anything. Now however, it might actually cost 
> extra
> money to run the  archive. For this reason, and in an attempt to keep the
> charges from going  over my monthly commit rate, I have moved the archive 
> to
> an area of my  server inaccessible to the public either via FTP or HTTP,
> effective  immediately. Please note, though, that nothing has been deleted
> from my  server, only moved out of public access areas.
> I have a  feeling that some person or persons, probably outside this
> list, are  running poorly written or misconfigured mirroring programs. 
> They
> seem to be  downloading the same files over and over and over again. I am
> willing to  work with anybody who wishes to host the archive, and at this
> point, I  would be willing to turn it over to somebody else full-time. If
> anybody is  interested, please step forward and we'll work something out.
> It's been a  great run, since I more or less took the archive over by 
> default
> in August  of 2005. However, I am no longer willing to support the 
> humongous
> bandwidth  hog the archive has become. Note however, that I will continue 
> to
> run this  mailing list for as long as anybody wants. This list is a  very
> low-bandwidth affair as compared to the archive.
> If anyone has any thoughts, please share them. I will not delete  my
> copy of the archive, and will cooperate fully in making it available  to
> anyone who wishes to take it over.
> Thanks for your  understanding.
> Jayson
>
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