[DECtalk] notes for some songs

Jayson Smith ratguy at insightbb.com
Sat Mar 29 10:33:11 EDT 2008


Please, please, please, drop this thread. Feel free to take it to private 
E-mail discussions if you wish. But I don't assume the list members who are 
uninvolved in this discussion appreciate having their mailboxes flooded with 
it.
Jayson.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Dectalk at aol.com>
To: <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: [DECtalk] notes for some songs


> Um, excuse me, but I have permission from Fonix to put  Dectalk version 
> 4.40
> out in my software.  And no, I'm not above the law, I  just can never get 
> any
> answers.
>
> You guys don't understand the ADA.  The ADA gives  the ok to put things in 
> an
> alternative format.  Dectalk is not a recording,  it's changeable coded 
> text.
> So the Dectalk vocals without music is not a  problem.
>
> But I ran into a very strange situation that I think  is insulting.  I am
> trying hard to get permission and pay royalties on  stuff.  I'm learning 
> that
> computer vocals don't count as real singing,  therefore permission is not 
> needed.
> That's  degrading!
>
> I'm trying to write to Sandi Patty's manager because  I'm about to do a CD 
> of
> only her songs.  I'm getting no response at  all.  You can't imagine how 
> low
> I feel.  Heck, I just found my free  rubber stamp so I never ever have to 
> pay
> postage just because I'm  handicapped.  Laws are just so different for the
> disabled that it makes me  sick.
>
>
> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>
>
> In a message dated 3/29/2008 1:25:18 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> tony at baechler.net writes:
>
> Hi,
>
> Like you, your post bothers me and I also feel that I should  respond.  I
> find your observations interesting.  I only saw one  reply saying that he
> didn't want it online and that was after my  post.  If you look through
> his past posts, you will see that he  refuses to follow copyright law and
> has said this several times.  He  apparently thinks, based on his posts
> and attitude, that he is above the  law.  How does this relate to him
> selling a CD?  Because it is  no different than piracy and making money
> besides.  He is certainly  entitled to sell his original creations and
> more power to him, but that  doesn't give him the right to sell copies of
> software that he did _NOT_  write and the notes to songs that are not his
> compositions.  We're  not talking classical, 18th or 19th centuries
> here.  We're talking  about songs from post-1922 that are still under
> copyright.  There are  many references to consult that give clear
> explanations of copyright law,  some links to which I've also posted in
> the past.  Therefore, I feel  mostly justified in what I said.  I am
> sorry that he felt offended  because I was trying to help and I hope he
> makes something for what he  alone created, but not at the expense of the
> developers and original  composers who are getting no money at all from
> his selling efforts.   Please read both sides of an argument before you
> post.  I would like  to respond to one other point you made below:
>
> Raymond Grote  wrote:
>> Also
>> read that it took him seven months to complete.  Do a software project 
>> that
>> takes half a year and see how you feel  when people bombard you with
> requests
>> to make it free and to post its  info online. For one thing, Snoopy isn't
>> just doing this for a hobby.  This is his job, from my understanding. He
> does
>> this kind of Dectalk  stuff because he likes it and because he makes 
>> money
>> off of it. With  messages pestering him, or saying that you'll put it
> online
>> so  proudly, he's going to get mad. Wouldn't you?
>
>
> No, I absolutely  wouldn't!  In fact, I would want to give it away and
> would be glad  that people showed an interest.  If it is truly
> commercial, I would  market and advertise it just like any other
> commercial product.  You  are obviously unfamiliar with the free software
> movement.  Look at:  http://www.debian.org/ and http://www.freebsd.org/
> and  http://sourceforge.net/ and http://freshmeat.net/  All of those
> sites  specialize in nothing but free software.  In the case of Debian
> and  FreeBSD, they have been free and have been put online for giveaway
> since  at least 1993.  That's a heck of a lot more than half a year I
> think.  Nowadays, the face of software is changing.  It is not  unusual
> to give away software just for the fun of it.  Yes, FreeBSD  does sell
> CDs to make money, but there is no reason at all why people  can't
> download CD images and make their own.  Therefore, I'm afraid  your
> argument holds little weight with me.  Also, I would not buy  anything
> from a so-called "commercial" software project where the guy  can't
> bother to use his real name.  If I get ripped off or if the CD  gets
> damaged, I can't very well contact him because I have no idea who he  is
> or what address to write to.  Nope, I'm not going to buy from  someone
> who can't be bothered to use at least a real sounding name.   I'm really
> surprised that this doesn't bother more  people.
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