[DECtalk] dectalk external question

hank smith hanksmith4 at earthlink.net
Thu Mar 2 00:08:17 EST 2006 

well I got the demo recorded
also I just got a 25 pin to 9 pin cable plug with one of those gender 
adapters hooked in to the comm port of the dectalk and it still aint working 
with jaws grrrrrrrr not sure what I am doing wrong here but I did get a 
recording of it powering up etc so  take a listen smiles
its on the ftp under incomming
thanks
hank
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brent Harding" <bharding at doorpi.net>
To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 6:02 PM
Subject: Re: [DECtalk] dectalk external question


>I doubt one could get a gig a second out a serial port. I think modems
> theoretically in the port could go to 115200.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "shaun everiss" <shaun.e at xtra.co.nz>
> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 7:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] dectalk external question
>
>
>> Hmm.
>> the standard coms settings are 9600 n 8 1 which were from the keysoft
>> configs, not sure if this bares anything on this though.
>> I know actual modems can go from 100 through to 11500 bps
>> Ports settings can go to 9000 maybe 99000 almost a gb.
>> however nothing runs that fast in a modem.
>> I just know they can.
>> At 09:59 a.m. 2/03/2006, you wrote:
>>>Hi,
>>>So what you would need to connect the unit to your computer is a 25-pin
>>>female to 9-pin female cable.  I don't know that I've ever seen such a
>>>thing, but you could certainly use a female to female gender changer.
>>>E.G.
>>>use a 25-pin male to 9-pin female cable, and plug the gender changer into
>>>the 25-pin end of the cable, thus making the male a female and able to
>>>plug
>>>into the DECtalk.
>>>Now assuming you get the thing connected properly, you'll still have to
>>>deal
>>>with communication settings such as baud rate and the like. 
>>>Unfortunately
>>>I
>>>know absolutely nothing about how these are set on the old DECtalk units
>>>because I have never used or even seen one.
>>>Jayson.
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "hank smith" <hanksmith4 at earthlink.net>
>>>To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 2:17 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [DECtalk] dectalk external question
>>>
>>>
>>>> the port has pins showing on it
>>>> thanks
>>>> hank
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Jayson Smith" <ratguy at bellsouth.net>
>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 2:28 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] dectalk external question
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > Hi,
>>>> > Assuming the ports on the back of your DECtalk are female, that is,
>>>> > they
>>>> > do
>>>> > not have pins showing, you would need a 25-pin male to 9-pin female.
>>>> > These
>>>> > cables were in common use not too long ago when external modems were
>>>being
>>>> > used, most modems had 25-pin female serial ports.  As to whether you
>>>need
>>>> > a
>>>> > null modem cable or adaptor, I can't say as I don't know how the
>>>> > serial
>>>> > ports in the DECtalk are wired, but I would tend to think not.  A 
>>>> > null
>>>> > modem
>>>> > cable or a null modem adaptor is needed in some instances, especially
>>>when
>>>> > hooking two computers together.  There are two different types of
>>>> > serial
>>>> > equipment.  Normally when two serial devices are connected properly,
>>>each
>>>> > device's Receive line is connected to the other device's Transmit
>>>> > line.
>>>> > When you try to hook up two devices of the same type without a null
>>>modem
>>>> > cable or adaptor, the transmit lines and the receive lines are
>>>> > connected
>>>> > to
>>>> > themselves.  That is like two people trying to communicate over a
>>>> > telephone
>>>> > by talking into the earpiece and listening to the mouthpiece.  In
>>>> > short,
>>>> > absolutely nothing is accomplished by so doing.  A null modem adaptor
>>>> > is
>>>> > put
>>>> > at one end of the cable to switch the pins around in these instances,
>>>> > or
>>>a
>>>> > null modem cable can be used which is already wired thus.  Usually 
>>>> > the
>>>> > only
>>>> > time this is an issue is when you are trying to hook up two 
>>>> > computers.
>>>> > Jayson.
>>>> >
>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>> > From: "hank smith" <hanksmith4 at earthlink.net>
>>>> > To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>> > Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 4:42 AM
>>>> > Subject: Re: [DECtalk] dectalk external question
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >> what kind of cable do I need to make this thing work with a 
>>>> >> computer?
>>>> >> is there such a thing as a 25 mail to 9 pin femail?
>>>> >> I'll be damned if I can find one of things I was told to look at a
>>>> >> null
>>>> >> modem cable but that is just for internet connections i thaught
>>>> >> its interesting though that you mentioned interfacing this thing 
>>>> >> with
>>>> > phone
>>>> >> lines thing things looks like a computer but no ports for a keyboard
>>>> >> or
>>>> >> anything its really big some what long etc.it has a fan inside it 
>>>> >> to.
>>>> >> anyways if any oe has used one of these things please get back to 
>>>> >> me.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> >> From: "Jayson Smith" <ratguy at bellsouth.net>
>>>> >> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 12:58 AM
>>>> >> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] dectalk external question
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> > Hi,
>>>> >> > You have one of the old DECtalks.  I've never seen one of these so
>>>> >> > don't
>>>> >> > have connector info, but I've heard Speakup under Linux can use
>>>> >> > these
>>>> >> > so
>>>> >> > if
>>>> >> > you ever want someone to take it off your hands...
>>>> >> > Anyway, you're wrong, any connector with pins or plugs showing is 
>>>> >> > a
>>>> > male,
>>>> >> > any jack or serial connector without pins showing is a female. 
>>>> >> > The
>>>> > phone
>>>> >> > jacks, as I understand it, are not used for connection to a
>>>> >> > computer.
>>>> >> > These
>>>> >> > old DECtalk units could interface with a phone line to give 
>>>> >> > callers
>>>> > spoken
>>>> >> > information, provided you had or could write the appropriate
>>>software.
>>>> > I
>>>> >> > think they could even do menu-based stuff, E.G. "For the song of
>>>> >> > the
>>>> >> > day
>>>> >> > press 1, for the DECtalk demo review of the day press 2, for your
>>>> > current
>>>> >> > account balance press 3, to use a time machine to make it so that
>>>> > Digital
>>>> >> > would never have even thought of selling DECtalk press 4, etc."
>>>Thus,
>>>> >> > probably the reason that DECtalk versions to this day have
>>>> >> > touchtone
>>>> >> > dialing
>>>> >> > commands.
>>>> >> > Jayson.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>> >> > From: "hank smith" <hanksmith4 at earthlink.net>
>>>> >> > To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>> >> > Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 11:56 PM
>>>> >> > Subject: [DECtalk] dectalk external question
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >> hello I have a dectalk external its before the express
>>>> >> >> it is running firmware 1.8 when you turn it on it has test
>>>touchtones
>>>> >> > before
>>>> >> >> it says
>>>> >> >> "dectalk version 1.8 is running"
>>>> >> >> anyways I am having trouble finding out what exact cable I need 
>>>> >> >> to
>>>> >> >> hook
>>>> >> > this
>>>> >> >> up to a computer to use with a screen reader
>>>> >> >> it has 2 phone jacks one with a phone simbol and the other with a
>>>> >> >> minus
>>>> >> > buy
>>>> >> >> it
>>>> >> >> btw I just had a custom cable made a mmj cable and it isn't the
>>>> >> >> one
>>>> > that
>>>> >> >> goes off to the side
>>>> >> >> the other 2 ports it has are one port that says
>>>> >> >> comm
>>>> >> >> the other port has a square buy it
>>>> >> >> these are 25 pin think its femail its the port with the pins
>>>showing.
>>>> >> >> anyways what cable do I need to have custom made to interface 
>>>> >> >> this
>>>> > thing
>>>> >> >> with the computer to use it as a external synth?
>>>> >> >> I am going to be returning the mmj cable and I need to tell the
>>>folks
>>>> >> >> what
>>>> >> >> kind of cable I need.
>>>> >> >> any help  is so so greatly appreciated.
>>>> >> >> thanks
>>>> >> >> hank
>>>> >> >>
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