[DECtalk] mod talker

Lehne Brasseal lehne at bellsouth.net
Sat Aug 19 11:33:55 EDT 2006 

Once you have Jaws configured for laptops, use the caps lock key similarly 
to the way you use insert on a standard keyboard.  Just a few basics for 
moving around are all you should need to use INV.

Caps+J and Caps+L move back and forth by words respectively.
Caps+k speaks the current word.
Caps+u moves up by lines, and Caps+o moves down.
To route the Jaws Cursor to the PC cursor, use Caps+[.
The left and right mouse buttons are Caps+8 and Caps+9 respectively.

Hope this helps.

Lehne
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jayson Smith" <ratguy at bellsouth.net>
To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 6:11 AM
Subject: Re: [DECtalk] mod talker


> Hi,
> Yes, I do mean the Jaws cursor.  Moving the Jaws cursor also moves the 
> mouse
> pointer.  I don't know how on a Laptop, but there are keys to left and 
> right
> click the mouse, once you've positioned it on something you want to click
> on.
> Jayson.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "shaun everiss" <shaun.e at xtra.co.nz>
> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
> Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 6:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] mod talker
>
>
>> do you mean the jaws cursor, I have never used the mouse curser and I
>> don't know how to use it.
>> I don't even know which keys for laptop layout would do that.
>> I can root pc to jaws and jaws to pc, I can go to pc or jaws cursors.
>> At 10:08 a.m. 19/08/2006, you wrote:
>> >Hi,
>> >Please read the Readme for both programs, and use Invtutor available on
> your
>> >desktop for the Invtool tutorial.  This will tell you what you need to
> do.
>> >The calibration procedure in Invtool is very hard/impossible for a blind
>> >person currently.  I'm getting by without it, actually.  Other than 
>> >that,
> on
>> >Win 98 SE, both programs are working quite well with Jaws.  You just 
>> >have
> to
>> >use your mouse curser and clicking buttons a lot.  The buttons you need
> to
>> >access are labeled already so you can find what to click on.
>> >Jayson.
>> >
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From: "shaun everiss" <shaun.e at xtra.co.nz>
>> >To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>> >Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 1:40 PM
>> >Subject: Re: [DECtalk] mod talker
>> >
>> >
>> > > hmm harmonised speech like a vocoder.
>> > > Would sound quite sifi.
>> > > Are there any scripts or anything for jaws?
>> > > I can't use either program mod talk and inv tool in that program, to
>> > > a limited extent I can use hal but.
>> > > I havn't been able to nut it all out.
>> > > At 10:27 p.m. 18/08/2006, you wrote:
>> > > >Hi,
>> > > >As I've said before, the developers know about the nonworking Sapi
> thing
>> >and
>> > > >they're working on it.  It's most likely a bug in their software, 
>> > > >but
>> >since
>> > > >they haven't yet been able to reproduce it themselves it's hard for
> them
>> >to
>> > > >troubleshoot.
>> > > >As for recording voices, I had some of the same thoughts you did 
>> > > >when
> I
>> > > >first started, but this isn't a product out of science fiction.  The
> fact
>> > > >is, by default, there are one thousand six hundred forty nine
> specific
>> > > >things the system wants a speaker to say in order to generate a
> synthetic
>> > > >version of that speaker's voice.  This includes some sentences which
> a
>> > > >person using a communication device might use, some words, some
> phrases,
>> > > >some of which are reasonable and others don't make any sense (for
>> >example,
>> > > >"latching churches" or "darling potato") and some pure nonsense not
> real
>> > > >words which, I'm sure, is designed to capture several versions of
>> >different
>> > > >speech sounds.  This inventory of things to say is designed to
> capture
>> >all
>> > > >of the sounds a person can make while speaking in the English
> language.
>> >In
>> > > >order to make a voice out of a prerecorded thing, you'd certainly
> have to
>> > > >create your own inventory from scratch since you couldn't make, say,
> a
>> > > >character from a movie say the 1649 things it wants.  You'd also 
>> > > >have
> to
>> > > >insure that every last speech sound got captured at least once.  For
> a
>> > > >demonstration of this, look at www.bluegrasspals.com/modeltalker and
> grab
>> > > >sample1.  Here, I had gotten to a point where several of the speech
>> >sounds
>> > > >necessary to speak what I had typed had not yet been recorded, and
> the
>> > > >result is gaps in the speech, since the system had no idea how to
>> >synthesize
>> > > >those missing sounds.  Also, there would need to be no background
> noise,
>> > > >music, etc. in the files, since that would only confuse the recorder
>> >and/or
>> > > >put undesired sounds in the speech produced.
>> > > >Jayson.
>> > > >
>> > > >----- Original Message -----
>> > > >From: "shaun everiss" <shaun.e at xtra.co.nz>
>> > > >To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>> > > >Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 5:39 AM
>> > > >Subject: Re: [DECtalk] mod talker
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > > Well thats strange, I tried this with my software, sam didn't 
>> > > > > even
>> > > > > detect the voice.
>> > > > > And well every voice usually plays even in control panel/speech
> mode.
>> > > > > This one did not.
>> > > > > Its a pitty this does not work as expected, as I was hoping to 
>> > > > > use
>> > > > > the system for an unlimited synth thingy maybe some speech
> recordings.
>> > > > > Can this modtalker and invtool accept stuff from other files 
>> > > > > other
>> > > > > than stuff recorded if they have speech in them?
>> > > > > Or just wav files in general?
>> > > > > That could open the way to some interesting voices already set as
>> > > >synthetic.
>> > > > > The trek comps come to mind, both voyager, tng, and tos as I have
> a
>> > > > > load of files on each plus the elete force 1 and 2, and ofcause
> some
>> > > > > borg stuff.
>> > > > > At 09:10 p.m. 18/08/2006, you wrote:
>> > > > > >Hi,
>> > > > > >First, SAPI isn't working for lots of blind folks, and the
> developers
>> >are
>> > > > > >aware of this.  The funny thing is, they can get SAPI working
> just
>> >fine.
>> > > >I
>> > > > > >told Tim to download and install the Jaws demo and see if that
> makes
>> >Sapi
>> > > > > >stop working.  Since lots of blind people are having problems,
> yet
>> >the
>> > > > > >developers can use Sapi just fine, blindness related software
> could
>> > > > > >certainly be a variable.
>> > > > > >As for Invtool, please check out Invtutor which is available 
>> > > > > >with
> the
>> > > > > >program.  This is a series of web pages which should get you
> going.
>> >As
>> > > >I've
>> > > > > >always said, there's lots of mouse clicking required but thank
> God
>> >the
>> > > > > >buttons are labeled.
>> > > > > >To select the high-quality voice once it's installed, I haven't
> done
>> > > >this,
>> > > > > >but go into Modeltalker, hit Alt+O then Enter for the Options
> dialog.
>> > > >You
>> > > > > >have to know what the voice database is called, maybe if there's
>> > > > > >instructions for the voice it tells you.  Anyway, delete what's
> in
>> >the
>> > > >box
>> > > > > >and type in the name of the new voice database.  Then mouse 
>> > > > > >click
> on
>> >the
>> > > >Ok
>> > > > > >button to put the setting into effect.
>> > > > > >Hope this helps!
>> > > > > >Jayson.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >----- Original Message -----
>> > > > > >From: "shaun everiss" <shaun.e at xtra.co.nz>
>> > > > > >To: <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>> > > > > >Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 4:17 AM
>> > > > > >Subject: [DECtalk] mod talker
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Hi I have a few questions.
>> > > > > > > I just downloaded and installed all componants.
>> > > > > > > I use jaws and hal.
>> > > > > > > I have a few questions.
>> > > > > > > How do you record your own voice in the inv tool?
>> > > > > > > How do you get the good quality voice to select in mod 
>> > > > > > > talker?
>> > > > > > > How do you get mod talker  voice speaking for sapi?
>> > > > > > > I tried with the control panel /speech/tts page and it said
> the
>> >voice
>> > > > > > > can not play or something to that effect.
>> > > > > > > I have the entire 162mb of files on the system as I write
> this.
>> > > > > > >
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