[DECtalk] dectalk is offline

[Sean Randall]

the red dwarf scripts are in the public domain for non-comercial and 
educational purposes.
Textual representations of hundreds of TV shows do that and you can do 
what you want with them, short of selling.
It's been that way for years - in days gone by, people would frame scripts 
on their walls and stuff.
The bbc don't care so long as you don't gain from it.



Ciao,
Sean R.


Never try to outstubborn a cat.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jayson Smith" <ratguy at bellsouth.net>
To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at jaybird.no-ip.info>
Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 6:47 AM
Subject: Re: [DECtalk] dectalk is offline


Hi,
|I don't have a problem being the home of the site, except for a couple
things.
Firstly, as many of you know, I don't have much bandwidth, only a 192KBPS
downstream ADSL line which means much lower upstream rates.  Also, I 
haven't
quite figured out how to do a secure upload directory as of yet.  My best
solution now would be to have an upload username/password like Onj had
before, then have a Cron script move the files to a secret location, not
accessible via either FTP or HTTP in the middle of the night.  I have a 
PHP
Webform generator which can supposedly generate forms that can allow
uploads, but the uploads would probably go where outsiders could get 
access
if they knew where to look and what they were looking for.
Also, my Net connection isn't as stable as I'd like right at the moment,
wouldn't you know it.  We're having some roof work done on our house and
they may have messed up the phone lines or something because we get 
frequent
IP changes I think, and some times when the Net is either really slow or
nonexistant.
Since Onj's copy of the archive has been taken offline or, more likely,
simply put behind a username and password unknown to any of us, I have
removed my nightly mirroring script from my Cron table, so it will no 
longer
execute.  If there ever becomes an official copy of the archive run by
somebody else, I will gladly modify my script to mirror from that source 
and
reinsert it.
Of course there's the option of webspace providers.  One I've heard of
recently is called www.streammadness.com and I think that's what the 
author
of Super Liam uses.  However, one problem with those providers, even if 
you
are willing to pay a monthly charge for space/bandwidth, is probably
copyright.  If you dig down in their user agreements, most of them 
probably
state somewhere that you are not allowed to host anything which violates
others' copyrights.  I know some of the stuff in the archive is original,
some are just DECtalk singing various songs, some probably copyrighted and
some probably not.  One of the main things which generated some discussion 
a
while back when this issue was raised was the Red Dwarf episodes. 
Obviously
those are probably under copyright, and while there aren't millions of
people trying to get at these files, I dunnow.  It just seems like with a
webhosting company, there's more of a chance of them deciding you violate
somebody's copyrights and shutting you down, and maybe turning you in to 
the
appropriate authorities, than there would be if such material were on a
server somewhere, run by a guy either for a charge or out of the kindness 
of
his heart.  Let me know your thoughts if you want.
Jayson.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Shaun Everiss" <shaun.e at xtra.co.nz>
To: <dectalk at jaybird.no-ip.info>
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 9:02 PM
Subject: [DECtalk] dectalk is offline


> Hi all.
> Ok so you may know dectalk is down.
>
> So I just talked to onj.
> And it seems that because of no money its not comming up till people 
> start
donating.
>
> I have no money, at least not at exchangerates I have here.
> I have no bandwidth, and no space.
> And ofcause I would like to help.
>
> Ok, saying that.
> Jayson is the offer for dectalk mirror as perminant ok still with you?
> We may have to shift the archive there perminantly.
> It aint fair to onj to have it when he has to pay loads for his 
> connection
and stuff like that.
> Unless anyone has another idea I vote we have the jaybird mirror is main
site.
>
> That then brings us to another point.
>
> We need 1-2 more mirrors, since we are down to one.
>
> Unless onj can get funding from here somehow, well that mirror is
finnished.
> ANd lets face it, the guy needs at least 50 bucks a month to cintinue.
> So what do you guys want to do.
>
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> DECtalk at jaybird.no-ip.info
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